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How do You catch a Political Troll?

Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:24 PM EDT
politics, obama, democrats, republican, newsvine, abortion, conservative, independent, trolls, trolling
By Citizen Kane-473667

Live Poll

Trolling for trolls is cruel because:

View Results
  • 49332
    they are not equiped for an intellectual battle
    13%
  • 49333
    they cannot use Search Engines to find facts
    0%
  • 49334
    they cannot read facts as posted
    0%
  • 49335
    they have only limited communication skills
    4%
  • 49336
    all of the above
    83%

VoteTotal Votes: 24

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I found this article to be:

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  • 49337
    helpful and amusing
    71%
  • 49338
    derogatory and cruel
    0%
  • 49339
    neither one of the above
    5%
  • 49340
    both of the above
    24%

VoteTotal Votes: 21

Live Poll

I am guilty of trollish behavior:

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  • 49341
    occasionally when I encounter one
    35%
  • 49342
    occasionally for fun
    17%
  • 49343
    often
    0%
  • 49344
    never
    22%
  • 49345
    depends on how much I had to drink!
    26%

VoteTotal Votes: 23

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Good Troll bait is hard to come by. First you need a serious issue, marinate it in multiple valid comments, let sit on the front page to bake, and lo and behold they will come a runnin'! You know who they are if you've been on Newsvine for a month or more; they are fairly easy to spot if you haven't been here that long. They will jump into a polite discourse and start throwing names around like "idiot", "nutjob", Wing nuts", or "stupid"," assinine", "dumb", or anything else there feeble minds can come up with in order to bolster their own "short comings" in logic, facts, or debate skills.

Feeding one Troll will only encourage others to yammer for food as well. Their favorite food is anger and their least favorite is fact. If you allow them to get under your skin you might as well quit moderating your column right then. As sure as one gets a rise out of you he will call all of his/her Troll friends into your column for a buffet. They will eat up so much of your time trying to explain why all the blame doesn't belong on one Parties shoulder that you will lose sight of your original topic. Best thing to do in a case like this is to "Delete" their original comment, preferably as soon as the name calling begins.

WARNING: All following comments on that particular section will also be deleted!

If there are pertinent comments that you wish to continue to have viewed you can copy and paste them in another or new comment section. BTW you do NOT have to apologize to Trolls for deleting their comments. They know exactly why you did it! Hopefully the rumors of tracking Trollish behavior by way of keeping count of how many times a posters comments are marked "Inflammatory" or No Value" under that cute little ! button on the bottom right of the comment box are true. If therumors are true we can expect quite a few (who have been around for so long they think they can act any way they want) will soon be gone or learn that the rules of good behavior and polite conversation even apply to their grandfathered in butts as well. Don't get me wrong, not everyone who has been around for a long time (pre-MSNBC) act like trolls-quite the opposite actually as a rule-most are very polite and will happily engage in a lively debate and bring facts to the table instead of Party Line assertions. But there are a few exceptions to every rule.....

Keep on top of the reporting button people, even if it isn't your column you can help in "Operation: Swat a Troll"!

Now what are your favorite baits for Trolls? My favorite words are (in no particular order):

Abortion
President Obama
Democratic Party
Republican Party
Independent
Conservative

What are yours?

Have fun with the comments; mind the CoH (so no I don't think you can name the Trolls) and please join Operation: Swat a Troll!

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Citizen Kane-473667

Maybe Tyler will be able to stop by and throw us the best Troll Bait from his experience with Newsvine. Meanwhile, what are your personal favorite headline words that seems to bring them out of the woodwork?

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:31 PM EDT
tyler

I think the best troll bait I can think of is accusing a popular politician of having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Every successful politician has been accused of having it, pretty much, and really, you're ragging on a politician for thinking they're good? Seriously? Yet under the guise of 'discovering' something 'clinical', you will bring out a ton of people ready to attack and defend said politician.

I look forward to eventually writing a book about trolls. Josh thinks it should be called Letters to a Young Troll.

  • 12 votes
#1.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:24 PM EDT
Indepvoter

I like the words poor and rich.. Socialist, Right Wing...

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:44 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

accusing a popular politician of having Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Uhhmm, do you mean acknowledging they have the problem since they all think they are Gods incarnate?

P.S. Tell Josh he is a sick pup but not to worry; He's in Good Company! ;op

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:48 PM EDT
Shub Tnediserp Remrof

Doesn't every politician in some way have a narcissistic personality disorder now days?

I will admit I do like Josh's idea.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:35 AM EDT
Tommy-1025077

Just an old country boy who is new to this, but I was wondering do Trolls use words, I thought they just grunted and ate Billy goats.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:03 AM EDT
cookin mama

And leave piles of crap laying around lol

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:14 AM EDT
Tommy-1025077

You know they have this bag of little green bait they sell at the farmer's co-op here in Louisiana that if a troll eats it he dies and dries up that way he don't stink up the joint. No wait a minute that is mouse bait. Sorry nevermind.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:17 AM EDT
gundy_75

they are not equiped for an intellectual battle

I laughed heartily at the first choice as it referenced intellectual battles all the while struggling with the intellectual fortitude of spelling "equipped" properly.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:39 AM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Congratulations on being the first to catch a typo! Keep hanging around my columns and you will find a lot more! It's caused by a software glitch from transferring my old Hunt-n-Peck program onto computers from my typewriter.

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 7:31 AM EDT
jscusmc69

Obama&ACORN,Rahm,Congress--put these in a title and-sit back and wait--They will come running.

You really have to watch out for the Troll Pies!! You hook them with FACTS---they just can't stand that OR understand them!

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 2:46 PM EDT
cookin mama

roflmao!!

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:51 PM EDT
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PenniD

Facts and quotes. Trolls love to dispute facts and when they can't find any facts to dispute, they quote (often wrongly) someone. Fun article, just what us political junkies need right now.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:45 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Have fun with the comments

On the lighter side of the news:

Michael Jackson has registered as a Constitutionalist for the 2010 elections in Chicago! He will also be a presidential candidate in 2012 with Farrah Fawcett as VP running mate. Please vote early and often!

My apologies for any delicate sensibilities I may have offended and no disrespect meant to the dearly departed.....they just happen to be well known names! ;op

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:36 PM EDT
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Atsidi

Almost anything political. Religion or any thing that might cause some sort of controversy at all. Health care, or like PennyD says, anything involving facts of any sort. I always wonder over motivation, they often sound like little kids just trying to start an argument.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:16 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

How about:

God is a Independent Woman and Boy Is She PISSED! She doesn't have health insurance!

  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:43 PM EDT
cookin mama

troll alert over on vdub story about being gone!

he's back yet again.

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:48 PM EDT
PenniD

Citizen, first MJ and Farrah and then God is a woman? You live on the edge, my friend...

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:48 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Trolling, Trolling Trolling

Get that Troll Bait Trolling

RAWHIDE!

  • 6 votes
#3.4 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
cookin mama

that was on another troll story, with a recipe for troll soup from me lol

  • 4 votes
#3.5 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT
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USAF Vet-923294

Abortion
President Obama
Democratic Party
Republican Party
Independent
Conservative

These are very good as bait. Yet, when I catch one, I like to agree with them on everything. It drives them crazy, because they want to argue. They soon find themselves having to think about the opposing ideas and their brains implode! j/k

The best way is to use facts and watch them scurry into diatribe and rhetoric. That leaves them with their asses hanging out.

  • 7 votes
#4 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:31 PM EDT
Atsidi

USAF Vet

Never thought of that. What fun---Next one I run across, I am going to jump on the band wagon and see how far it goes.

  • 6 votes
#4.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:37 PM EDT
cookin mama

gun control

  • 7 votes
#4.2 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:02 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Cookin' Mama you start the thread on gun control and USAF Vet and atsidiwashichu both agree with them. I wanna see some implosions! BTW most of them I wouldn't want to see their hairy butts!

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:31 PM EDT
PenniD

Oh, can I alert all my vet friends for the fray? Gun control, they would LOVE it.

  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:49 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Vets? Did someone say Vets? OOhhh big time Troll Bait there! Shame on you PenniD! You trying to start somethin' on this nice, peaceful thread?.... BAD GIRL! Consider yourself spanked and take ten minutes in the time out corner now young Lady!

  • 5 votes
#4.5 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:56 PM EDT
PenniD

I'm bad, bad to the bone, that's me. Oh, yeah. But I'm not a troll. A geek, I am, bad to the bone I am, but not a troll. LOL

  • 4 votes
#4.6 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:31 AM EDT
chelli

Ben, I saw that done once--not sure if it was you. The person (or should I say troll) actually switched sides in the middle of the argument and started posting facts for the other side! I laughed my butt off, and this person stayed off my ignore list just because they were such a blatant asshat--I wanted to see more idiocy!

  • 5 votes
#4.7 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

A true troll does not argue for a position, but instead argues to cause conflict. That is why so many say "don't feed the trolls." The idea being that if you respond they can get their rocks off through arguements.

  • 8 votes
#4.8 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
PenniD

USAF, that's the best definition of troll I have come across. Ought to be required reading BEFORE you sign up for Newsvine or any other group.

  • 5 votes
#4.9 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

Thanks Penni. I used to be a "Leader" on a QnA Site. I earned a top ranking for answering questions. One day a question came up about trolls and I did my research to give the best answer. ;0 )

  • 6 votes
#4.10 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:48 PM EDT
cookin mama

vet you left out they can aslo be ABPITA

  • 4 votes
#4.11 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:15 PM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

Okay, I get the PITA part, but what is the AB part? let me geuss.....A Big Pain In The A$$?

  • 4 votes
#4.12 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 12:00 AM EDT
cookin mama

yep you are one smart cookie!

  • 3 votes
#4.13 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 12:51 AM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

And Mama, you can call me Ben, like all the other folks in blue! ;0 )

  • 3 votes
#4.14 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 3:15 AM EDT
cookin mama

Ok thanks Ben

  • 2 votes
#4.15 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
USAF Vet-923294

Uhhhh......That sounds ominus.....GLEN! LOL

  • 5 votes
#4.17 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 2:28 PM EDT
cookin mama

Hi Glen aka pnv. lol

  • 5 votes
#4.18 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
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believer-369603

Hey Citizen--

I would add to your list

Christians

Atheists

The name of any high profile politician

Gun Control.

All of these are Highly potent troll-bait.

My favorite response to trolls, (after ignoring them, of course) is to simply comment as follows;

"Hahahhhahahahahheehehehehehahahahahahaoooo."

They can't stand to see you happy. Drives them batty.

Nice article, Citizen, thanks.

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:22 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

:o)

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:26 PM EDT
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GeminiGirl

Great article! ~LOL~

Alas, I still keep hoping that I can manage to make at least one troll listen to fact instead of talking points and the slinging of nastiness. Next time, I think I'll give up, just toss up my hands, and say, "Know what? You're right!" and walk away. Beats banging my head against the desk.

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:27 PM EDT
cookin mama

women rights

happiness

they just love when you say I am putting you on ignore.

iran

iraq

war

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:03 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Do you think "Troll" works as Troll bait? I guess we will find out!

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:24 PM EDT
cookin mama

yes

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:41 PM EDT
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iconoclasm

And if you need content to go with that title try the "Random Palin Resignation Speech Generator"

http://towerlibrary.net/

Hit your refresh button for a different speech. I'm not trying to pick on Palin, she just happen to be the target on this one.

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 11:34 PM EDT
iconoclasm

This thing is too much fun I seeded it as well

Random Palin Resignation Speech Generator

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Thu Aug 6, 2009 11:41 PM EDT
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PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
cookin mama

Peta also a troll lover

  • 2 votes
#12 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 12:56 AM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

People

Eating

Tasty

Animals

  • 2 votes
#12.1 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 7:40 AM EDT
PenniD

PETA is going to get you, they'll throw Pamela Anderson at you. Then you'll quit making fun of them.

  • 3 votes
#12.2 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
belle42

You say that like having a woman with air bags being thrown at you is a bad thing

  • 4 votes
#12.3 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT
cookin mama

If want to see something funny throw a porcupine at her and watch the air go whoosh. LOL

  • 4 votes
#12.4 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
PenniD

Just hope the porcupine hits the fun bags, if it hits her face, the porcupine would drown in botox. LOL

  • 4 votes
#12.6 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:05 PM EDT
PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
Atsidi

Verry carefully.

  • 5 votes
#12.8 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:19 PM EDT
cookin mama

roflmao from your comments...

  • 4 votes
#12.9 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Q:

How come there are no Federally funded Programs to study the mating habits of porcupines?

A: No one ones to touch a porc laden bill!

  • 6 votes
#12.10 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 7:36 PM EDT
PenniD

Groan.

  • 2 votes
#12.11 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 9:22 PM EDT
PastNikeVet-906575Deleted
Citizen Kane-473667

Hey you guys started it! ;oP

  • 4 votes
#12.13 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 10:29 PM EDT
cookin mama

And it was fun. lol

  • 4 votes
#12.14 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 12:24 AM EDT
jscusmc69

drdrdrdrdrdr---drum roll---TING--cymble------ROFLMAO---Citizen PORC???? Id say darts at 10 feet and see what blows up!!

  • 5 votes
#12.15 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 12:28 AM EDT
USAF Vet-923294

If it was in Washington, probably a lot would blow up......They're all full of hot air! LOL

  • 5 votes
#12.16 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 2:11 AM EDT
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